BakingAsked Aug 07, 2024 by Chelsea W.
Hi there! I have been on a bread journey for some time now, and my loaves no longer can be used for self-defense, however, they are still denser and more crumbly than I would like. Ideally, my finished product is soft, pillows, stretchy, etc. I have adjusted the amounts of wet and dry, tried many different temperatures and moisture levels for proofing...I am just at a loss. The loaves slice, but unless you toast it, the slices just kind of fall apart. My current recipe/process is:
2 cups warm water, using thermometer, measure less than 110 degrees
.5 cup white sugar
2 packets active dry yeast
1 cup butter, melted
.5 tsp salt
5-6 cups AP flour
Add sugar to warm water, stir until dissolved. Add yeast, stir, let sit 5 minutes. Attach dough hook, with mixer on low, add one cup flour and a drizzle butter. Add salt. Alternate flour and butter until all wet and dry are added. I do this slowly so the dough ends up being kneaded about 8 minutes. I mix on medium low an additional 2-3 minutes. Transfer to greased container and let rise until doubled. Tip out, shape, place in loaf pans, and allow to rise another 30 or so minutes. Bake at 350 for 20-25 minutes. Although it has taken as long as 35 minutes.
What am I doing wrong?
Answered by Chris Kimball
Hi,
There's a few things going on here causing the issues. For starters, You'll want to use bread flour, not AP flour, for the best gluten development. The higher the flour's protein level, the stronger the gluten will be, which is important considering the high amount of fat and sugar in the recipe. Both those ingredients tenderize and weaken gluten (leading to that dense, crumbly texture). Arguably, I'd cut back on the sugar by 1/2 to 1/4 cup to start. I'd also likely cut back on the yeast--2 packets of yeast is roughly 4 1/2 tablespoons, which is a lot for that volume of flour. Try about 4 teaspoons (1 1/2 packets) and see how it goes. The slower the rise, the more controlled the gluten development will be (doughs without a sturdy structure can collapse upon themselves when baked, causing a dense texture.) And lastly, I would push kneading longer to further enhance gluten development. Eight to 10 minutes sounds a little short for a dough this rich (and that you're adding ingredients along the way, which affects kneading time). Properly kneaded dough should be smooth and glossy and ideally, reaches "windowpane" stage. You can take a small piece of the dough and (carefully) stretch it out thin enough to see through.
Lastly, that salt volume seems really low! Salt helps strengthen gluten, much less improves flavor (salt's role is crucial beyond just the bread's flavor). If using table salt, The general rule of thumb is roughly 1/4 teaspoon per each 1 cup of flour. So 5 cups of flour would take 2 1/4 teaspoons of table salt.
Good luck!
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Hello! My daughter would like to make a Fourth of July fruit tart this year and she is new to tarts. I found the Chocolate Orange Tart recipe on your website. Do you think she could omit the orange zest/orange juice and cinnamon from the filling? She wants to top with blueberries and strawberries and wasn't sure if those flavors would go well with the berries. Thank you!
Answered by Rosie Gill
Hi Angie -
Your daughter can absolutely leave out the orange zest and juice and the cinnamon. She will have a really rich chocolatey base for her fruit. She may want to add 1-2 TBS of water to replace the orange juice. One idea -- if she wants to add a 1/4 teaspoon of cardamom instead of cinnamon, that would pair nicely with the blueberries and strawberries.
Read More BakingAsked May 20, 2024 by Joanne G.
If you would consider this. Mention in your baking recipes how long the finished product will last and how to keep it.
Answered by Chris Kimball
Thanks for the suggestion and we will most definitely consider! Optimum condition of baked goods can really vary according to ambient temperature, humidity and storage methods. Its a great suggestion for our headnote information.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 04, 2024 by Heather B.
Hello!
I need some help tweeting a coconut macaroon recipe. I have made it once and was somewhat successful. However, many other bakers commented (and was my experience as well but I modified), that it’s too wet and falls apart. Knowing this, I reduced the honey by 75% and added about 1/4 fine almond flour. My egg whites were perfect and held up until I started making the cookies. The batter became very wet but I managed to get them on the pan and they are very fragile after baking. What are your suggestions for improving the outcome? I am really wanting a lower sugar /carb macaroon I was thinking about using brown rice syrup instead of honey as I know that works well in granola bars
here’s the recipe (as posted)
# INGREDIENTS
- 4 egg whites
- 1 dash salt
- ⅓ cup honey or maple syrup
- 2 tsp vanilla extract
- 2 cups coconut flakes
- 1 TBSP coconut oil or melted butter
# INSTRUCTIONS
- In a mixing bowl, whisk the egg whites and salt until stiff peaks form.
- In a separate large bowl mix together the honey or maple syrup, vanilla, coconut flakes, melted coconut oil or butter, and maca.
- Carefully fold the coconut mixture into the egg whites.
- Let the mixture rest in the refrigerator for 30 minutes so the coconut can soak up the liquid.
- Preheat the oven to 350°F.
- Line a baking sheet or cookie sheet with parchment paper.
- Use a 1 tablespoon measure or cookie scoop to scoop the macaroon mixture onto the prepared baking sheet. Leave a small amount of space between each one.
- Bake for 8-12 minutes on the lined baking sheet until just starting to brown.
Appreciate your help!
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Heather -
At Milk Street we don't work on low-carb or low-sugar recipes, so we aren't super experienced with those types of substitutions. What we can say that this recipe has liquid sugar rather than granulated sugar, which will inherently make the mixture more/too wet and loose. We would probably recommend using a granulated sugar substitute like monk fruit sweetener instead.
Best,
The Milk Street Cooking Team
Read More BakingAsked Mar 30, 2024 by Karmen M.
Hi, just listened to the recent podcast that featured what sounds like an amazing Brazilian Carrot Cake. On your site, there are a few comments/questions that ask about subbing Greek yogurt or sour cream for the coconut cream. Can you offer guidance here perhaps? Thanks so much!
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Karmen -
We think you could probably sub an equal amount of greek yogurt for the coconut cream, but it, obviously, won't have the same flavor profile as the cake was intended. Since there are many brands of sour cream that are a lot thinner than greek yogurt or coconut cream, we probably wouldn't recommend that substitution.
Best,
The Milk Street Cooking Team
Read More BakingAsked Feb 28, 2024 by Chris E.
I am getting ready to make a Mile Street recipe for zaletti. It calls for "fine ground cornmeal" with comments not to use coarse nor polenta. I can only find "medium ground cornmeal" and also corn flour. I am thinking I will take the medium ground cornmeal and whirl it up in the food processor.
Anyone else have a problem finding fine ground cornmeal to this recipe?
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Chris -
If you check out your supermarket's international food aisle, you may find Goya brand finely ground cornmeal or another brand like Caribbean Rhythms or Iberia.
If you do decide to use the food processor, just make sure not to overprocess it. I would use the pulse setting and process a little at a time to make sure it doesn't go too far.
Best,
The Milk Street Cooking Team
Read More BakingAsked Feb 06, 2024 by Heidi Q.
I love zucchini bread but after multiple recipes I have not found one that is moist enough. With a center that is almost squishy.
What Should I do? Just underbake it?
Heidi
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Heidi -
We usually get complaints that zucchini bread is \too\ moist and bordering on soggy so this is an unusual problem. Some ways to ensure a moist quick bread are to use oil instead of butter (oil stays liquid at room temperature, therefore maintaining moisture), add an ingredient like sour cream or yogurt (these not only add fat and moisture but acid, which inhibits gluten development), and, of course, bake properly (insert a toothpick in the center and pull the bread out once it is clean).
Best,
The Milk Street Cooking Team
Read More BakingAsked Feb 01, 2024 by Thoms C.
I want to try the Milk Street basque-style cheesecake recipe. But none of my local grocers offer creme fraiche. Is there anything I can use to substitute for that product?
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Thoms -
It's actually really easy to make your own crème fraîche using heavy cream and buttermilk. Here are the instructions. Just make sure to start the project the day before you want to make the cheesecake.
Best,
The Milk Street Cooking Team
Read More BakingAsked Jan 17, 2024 by Rosemarie D.
Occasionally I come upon a baking recipe that calls for "vegetable oil". If no specific type is specified, what would you recommend to use as a neutral oil for baking?
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Rosemarie -
At Milk Street we typically use grapeseed oil, but any oil without significant flavor, such as safflower oil, canola oil, or avocado oil, should work fine. Avoid peanut oil, extra-virgin olive oil, or unrefined coconut oil due to strong flavors. We also would avoid refined coconut oil since it's solid at room temperature. When calling for oil in baking it's usually because we want a fat that stays liquid at room temperature, which creates a cake that is and stays moist.
Hope that helps!
The Milk Street Cooking Team
Read More BakingAsked Jan 04, 2024 by Miranda V.
I have a girlfriend who is GF and every time she has me try her GF food I want to send her a sympathy card. I tried my hand at making GF brownies and it was a disaster. What is the best way to modify truly delicious recipes with GF alternatives like plain flour for coconut flour etc?
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Miranda -
Unfortunately we don't develop recipes that are specifically gluten-free. That being said, it has been our experience that using a gluten-free flour \blend\ is the closest approximation to wheat flour for baking. You can find gluten-free flour blends in the supermarket or make your own - there are plenty of recipes online. We recommend visiting food magazine websites or published cookbooks for gluten-free recipes rather than online blogger versions - these are typically not well-tested like those by a reputable source and won't necessarily work as described. King Arthur Flour has a good flour blend and some excellent recipes on their website. Good luck!
Best,
The Milk Street Cooking Team
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