BakingAsked May 12, 2020 by Kerry D.
Hello! I'm looking to recreate Strawn's Strawberry Pie in Shreveport, LA. I've found some recipes but all include eggs/cornstarch and commenters are claiming those aren't actually used. Any insight?
Strawn's Eat Shop's Strawberry Icebox Pie
https://www.food.com/recipe/strawns-fresh-strawberry-pie-282191?soc=socialsharingpinterest
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Kerry - We aren't familiar with this particular pie but the confusion is certainly interesting. I found this version of the recipe that claims to be direct from the owner and calls for both cornstarch and eggs. Based on the technique listed here this would seem to be more of a custard filling. However, I did watch this video of them putting the pies together and it looks like they do line a pre-baked pie crust with a thin layer of red "custard looking" mixture. Then they add a pile of fresh strawberries, top that with a pile of confectioner's sugar, and then cover the whole thing with a thick layer of fresh whipped cream. So, while commenters may say it doesn't include eggs or cornstarch, I think it's worth trying this version of the recipe to see what you think of this first since it is purported to be the original. Good luck and let us know. I'm very curious to hear how it turns out and if it's close to the original! Best, Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked May 01, 2020 by Brenda B.
I was taught to sift flour before it is measured.
Now I hear that sifting is not necessary at all. Is that correct?
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Brenda - I think that rule may date back to when flour had more of a tendency to clump. All of our Milk Street baking recipes assume that you have not sifted the flour before measuring and we strongly recommend weighing dry ingredients in baking for accuracy. When I did recipe testing a few years ago for an Angel Food Cake recipe, I found that sifting and whisking achieved the same basic results. So, for ingredients that might tend to clump such as cocoa powder, confectioners' sugar, and cake flour, you can simply whisk them to break up any clumps after measuring. The only exception is if a recipe you are using calls specifically for sifted flour, since the weight of sifted flour is quite a bit different than unsifted flour. Here's a great article about sifting in which several chefs are interviewed on their opinions as well. Best, Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 29, 2020 by j S.
Hi.
Are there any uses for cake flour other than cake? I found a box at the back of the cupboard and have determined that it is not a good substitute for all-purpose in cookies, is passable when mixed with almond flour for an almond cake, and is "ok" in a chocolate cake recipe written for cake flour, but it has the texture of a boxed mix or a supermarket cake. Is there any way to make it more like all-purpose? I missed out on my usual bag of King Arthur all-purpose during the hoarding frenzy.
Thanks, js
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi JS - Cake flour is lower in protein than all-purpose flour (between 3-6%, depending on brand) and, therefore, yields a cookie or cake with a fine, delicate crumb. You can try substituting cake flour for all-purpose by either weighing the flour - use the amount in a recipe written for all-purpose flour - or using 1 cup plus 2 tablespoons of cake flour for each cup of all-purpose flour. Obviously this is not a perfect science and, therefore, not a perfect substitution but it may get you closer to the texture you are looking for with all-purpose flour. Hope it works for you! Best, Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 29, 2020 by Lynn F.
1) Regarding the knuckle test where one pokes the dough with a knuckle, and:'
- if the dough springs back, the dough is ready
- if the dough sags/doesn't spring back, it is over proofed
What happens if you poke the dough and it is NOT ready yet, i.e....
- if the dough \_\_\_\_\_\_\_, it needs to proof longer
2) Also, in a recipe that requires two rises, does this knuckle method apply to just the first rise (i.e. signaling the dough is ready to be shaped), or just to the second rise (after the dough is shaped, signaling it is ready to bake), or to BOTH rises?
Some breads (no knead?) require only one rise. In this case I assume this test would apply?
3) Is the general rule that when a yeast bread is done baking, the internal temp is ~195-200 degrees? Is it the same for a cake, or what is the approximate internal temp for a cake when it is done? How about a quick bread like banana bread? (I always seem to under or over bake my banana bread, so I am looking for more reliable ways to test for doneness, other than "just beginning to pull away from the sides of the pan" and "golden brown.")
4) A certain British show talks about "prooving" the dough. Is this the same as proofing, or just the way they pronounce "proofing," do you suppose?
Thank you!
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Lynn -
1.) The Ripe Test is actually gently inserting two fingers into the dough and, if the indentation remains, the dough is "ripe" and ready to move to the next step. If the indentation does not remain, continue rising and retest.
2.) The ripe test to determine if a proofed and shaped dough is ready for the oven is a little different than the method used after the first rise. Simply touch the side of the dough lightly with your fingertip. If the indentation remains, the loaf is ripe and ready for the oven.
3.) A properly baked loaf should register a temperature between 195 and 210 degrees on an instant-read thermometer, depending upon the type of bread. Generally speaking, leaner breads will be done at the lower end and richer breads are done at the higher level. For cakes, we prefer the visual clue of poking the top of the cake gently with your finger and if the cake bounces back, it's done. However, the temperature should be around 200-210 degrees at the center of the cake. Quick breads are in the same range.
4.) "Proving" is used interchangeably with "proofing" to describe the process of rising dough. It can also refer to "proving" active dry yeast, which is the step of combining yeast with water and sugar to remove the outer layer of dead cells to activate the yeast before adding it to your dough. This step is only necessary with active dry yeast. Rapid Rise or Instant yeast has already had the outer layer removed and can be added directly to the dry ingredients.
Best,
Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 28, 2020 by Lucy E.
Is it better to use bleached or unbleached flour in cookies and pie crust? Please explain why you recommend one over the other.
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Lucy - When flour is freshly milled it's actually yellow and naturally whitens as it ages. Historically, consumers found yellow flour unappealing. Aging takes time, however, and most producers don't have the time (i.e., money) to wait for the process to happen naturally so flour producers started to use benzoyl peroxide to "bleach" the flour. The benzoyl peroxide can cause baked goods to have "off" flavors, usually in things like cakes, biscuits, or scones, where other flavors can't mask it. We aren't bothered by the yellow color and like our flour "pure," so we prefer unbleached flour. I hope that helps explain it. Best, Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 28, 2020 by Lynn F.
I am on a quest to find the perfect banana bread, and have made 7 recipes so far. I am curious about the different methods used in the recipes.
1) How will the finished product vary, or is it really not important whether wet ingredients are added to dry, or vice versa? For example:
- Add dry ingredients (flour, soda, salt) to the wet ingredients (oil and sugar combined first, then mashed banana and eggs are mixed in). Note: Unique to this recipe, 3 T milk and vanilla are added after the flour mixture. Any thoughts re: the change in the final product as a result of adding the milk at the end, instead of with the wet ingredients?
- The MSK cardamom Brown Butter Banana Bread instructions say to add the wet ingredients (browned butter, banana, sugar, eggs, vanilla) to the dry ingredients (flour, baking powder, baking soda, salt).
2) Further, one recipe from a 50 year old church cookbook says to let the batter sit on the counter for 20 minutes before putting the pan into the oven. I imagine this would allow more gluten to form before the bread is baked. Based on science, should this step make a difference in the finished product, and if yes... can you describe the difference? (I did not notice anything.)
3) In general, how will the end product vary given the varying leaveners used (all for a single loaf of bread)?
-- 4 teaspoons baking powder (this recipe lists oil as an ingredient, yet invites the use of half buttermilk - introducing acid? - in place of half the oil to reduce the amount of fat in the bread). Note: I used only oil and this loaf turned out more like a fluffy cake than banana bread, IMO.
-- 1 teaspoon soda and 1 teaspoon powder (MSK cardamom recipe)
-- 1 teaspoon soda (this is the recipe with the 3T milk added after the flour).
4) Lastly, the recipes roughly have the same amount of each basic ingredient: 1 c mashed banana, 2 c flour, 1c sugar, 1c fat and 2 eggs. Except the MSK Cardamom recipe has double the banana (2 cup mashed) and half the fat (1/2 c butter). My expert takeaway (!) is that the added banana allows one to use less fat, likely resulting in a healthier end product. Am I on to something, or missing something?!
Thank you so much for your thoughts. When I go to heaven I will spend my eternity in a test kitchen!
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Lynn -
1.) For pancake batter, the order doesn't matter. You can leave some flour unmixed and the batter lumpy. It's more important to limit mixing and gluten development. For quick breads, muffins, scones the traditional method is adding wet to dry. The well in the center of dry ingredients allows the dry ingredients to be folded over on top of the liquid and then gently incorporated just until mixed. Adding the flour on top of the liquid would lead to overmixing. That being said, some recipe developers believe the opposite is true, which is likely what you are seeing in your first example. I think the key is, whichever method you use, to make sure not to overmix the batter. I don't see any reason why leaving behind 3 T. milk and vanilla would make any difference in the batter texture.
2.) I don't see the point in resting a quick bread batter. First, quick breads generally have either just baking soda or a combo of baking soda and powder. Baking soda (and some of the baking powder) reacts when combined with liquid and starts to work immediately. If you let the batter sit, that reaction will be lost before it goes into the oven and you will lose rising power. Also, yes - resting does develop gluten. Which you \don't\ want in a quick bread. Quick breads should be moist and tender, not chewy.
3.) The bread with all baking powder was light and fluffy, like cake; not quick bread. We liked the combo of soda and powder in our bread because of two things - 1.) the added amount of bananas (for flavor) needed some extra lift from powder to achieve the density we wanted and 2.) the soda added browning.
4.) I think the goal with our banana bread was to increase the amount of banana as much as possible to boost the flavor. Because this added more overall volume, we needed to decrease the butter to adjust. And, yes, we found that was easy to do because the bananas kept the bread moist.
I hope I've answered all of your questions clearly! Best, Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 27, 2020 by Keith A.
Hi, I have some extra coconut frosting sitting in the freezer and free time on my hands :) I was wondering if your banana bread recipe could also be turned into a cookie recipe (in this case for whoopie pies) by simply putting the dough on a cookie sheet and checking them in about ten or so minutes for doneess. Ditto for the French Spice Cake.
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Keith - We haven't tested it, but our banana bread recipe isn't all that different than this banana whoopie pie recipe from Martha Stewart. I think it should work. I don't think I would recommend it for the French Spice Cake, though. Due to the large amount of honey in the recipe I think it would spread too much. Best, Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 27, 2020 by Lynn F.
Christopher often mentions his Brown Irish Soda Bread and not as often, his holiday Trifle that serves 12. Please share these recipes!
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Lynn - I spoke with Chris and he sent along the following recipes. Hope this helps! Best, Lynn C.
IRISH SODA BREAD
This is a quick bread, since it depends on baking soda, not yeast, for leavening. Many soda bread recipes use no butter and sugar and too little salt, which yields a dull loaf of bread indeed. The interesting aspect to this recipe is the use of a cast iron skillet for baking. Cast iron is a wonderful heat conductor and also serves to shape the dough as it bakes.
4 cups unbleached all purpose flour
2 tablespoons sugar
1 teaspoon cream of tartar
1 teaspoon baking soda
2 teaspoons salt
4 tablespoons unsalted butter, softened
1 3/4 to 2 cups buttermilk
1 tablespoon melted butter
Heat oven to 400 degrees. Whisk dry ingredients (flour through salt) together in a large bowl. With a fork or your fingers, stir softened butter into flour mixture until fully incorporated. Add 1 3/4 cup buttermilk and stir mixture with a large rubber spatula or your fingers until dough starts to come together. Add more buttermilk if necessary to produce a cohesive dough. Turn onto a lightly floured work surface and knead for 30 seconds or until dough comes together. It should still be rough textured and lumpy.
Shape dough into a round and place in a 9- or 10-inch cast iron skillet. Score top of dough with a knife or razor blade, making two or three slashes. Bake about 40 minutes (it may take longer – the key is to check the internal temperature) or until an instant read thermometer indicates an internal temperature of 180 degrees. (Note that yeast breads usually have to be cooked to over 200 degrees – this bread is done at a much lower temperature.)
Remove from oven, brush with melted butter, and let cool for 30 minutes before serving.
Makes 1 round loaf
TRIFLE
1 recipe Chiffon Cake, cut into 2 layers and then cut into 3/4-inch slices (see below)
4 recipes Pastry Cream (see below)
1 cup heavy cream, very cold
1/4 cup sugar
1/3 cup Amaretto or Grand Marnier or other liqueur
4 cups fresh, ripe berries such as raspberries, blueberries, or strawberries, washed and thoroughly dried
Bake the chiffon cake, cool, and slice. Make a quadruple recipe of the pastry cream and press a piece of waxed paper onto the surface of the custard to prevent a skin from forming. Refrigerate until cold. You can make the pastry cream a day ahead of time. Just before using, stir gently until smooth.
Chill a large bowl and whisk or the beaters from an electric mixer. Add the cream and sugar to the bowl and beat on low speed (if using an electric mixer), gradually increasing the speed over the next minute until the mixer is on high. Beat until the cream is thick and can easily hold a 2-inch peak. Fold the chilled pastry cream into the whipped cream.
To assemble the trifle, select a clear glass bowl with tall, straight sides. (It can also be made in any large bowl if you do not care about presentation.) The bowl should hold about 16 cups. Arrange cake slices in a fallen domino pattern around the perimeter of the bottom of the bowl. (The slices may have to be trimmed to fit properly in the bowl.) Fill in the center with additional slices. (You should have used about 1/3 of the cake slices at this point.) Brush cake slices with 1/3 of the Amaretto. Scatter one third of the fruit over the cake. Spread 1/3 of the pastry cream mixture over the top of the slices. Repeat the steps above twice until you have used up all of the cake and the pastry cream.
Place trifle in refrigerator for at least 2 hours (or it can be made a day ahead) before serving.
Serves 8 to 10
CHIFFON CAKE
2 1/4 cups cake flour
1 1/2 cups sugar
2 teaspoons baking powder
1/2 teaspoon kosher salt
1/2 cup melted butter or corn oil (butter is preferred)
6 egg yolks
1/2 cup water
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
9 egg whites
1 teaspoon cream of tartar
Heat oven to 375 degrees. Sift together the flour, 1 cup of sugar (reserving 1/2 cup), the baking powder, and the salt into a large bowl. Whisk to blend.
In a separate bowl, whisk together the butter (or oil), egg yolks, water, and vanilla. Pour the liquid ingredients into the flour mixture and beat until smooth (this can be done by hand with a whisk or wooden spoon).
Using an electric mixer, whip the egg whites until frothy and then add the cream of tartar. Beat until soft peaks just begin to form. Add the remaining 1/2 cup sugar and beat until whites hold a 2-inch peak. Do not overbeat; whites should be billowy and glossy.
Stir one quarter of the beaten whites into the batter to lighten. Then fold the remaining whites into the batter and pour into an ungreased 10-inch tube pan. Bake for 30 to 40 minutes. Press lightly with a fork. If the top of the cake does not spring back, bake for an additional 5 to 10 minutes (check every 5 minutes).
Remove pan from oven let cool on a rack for at least one hour. Run a thin knife around the outside of the cake before removing, since it is sticky and will easily adhere to the sides.
PASTRY CREAM
This recipe makes a thick, flavorful pastry cream with a deep yellow color. It uses sufficient egg yolks and flour to ensure a thick result (many recipes turn out thin and watery if not prepared just right).
1 cup half and half
3 egg yolks
1/4 cup sugar
1 1/2 tablespoons flour
Pinch salt
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
Heat half and half in a small saucepan until it just begins to simmer.
Meanwhile, whisk the egg yolks, sugar, flour, and salt in a medium heavy-bottomed saucepan for 1 minute until light and fluffy. Add about a 1/2 cup of the hot half and half to the egg mixture, whisking constantly but gently. When mixed, slowly pour in the remaining half and half, whisking slowly to incorporate.
Place pan over a low heat and, whisking gently but constantly, heat until mixture thickens, about 4 to 7 minutes. (Time will vary depending on the stovetop and the saucepan.) Continue whisking gently for an additional 3 minutes or until mixture loses its floury taste.
Strain custard into a small bowl. Add vanilla and stir gently to incorporate. Smooth top of custard with a rubber spatula and place waxed paper directly on the surface of the pastry cream and refrigerate until needed.
Makes about 1 1/2 cups pastry cream
Read More BakingAsked Apr 24, 2020 by Lily ..
I am obsessed with pain au chocolat and have eaten every variety under the sun. Being somewhat of a snob about it, it's very very rare to find ones outside France where the croissant exterior delivers the proper "shatter" effect of bursting into tiny messy crunchy flakes when when you bite into it. I am assuming that if it's hard to find this among commercial bakeries in America, than trying to achieve this at home would be near impossible? Am I doomed to wait until the next time I can go to France to taste this again?
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Lily - Croissant-making is really an art form developed over years of practice. Not sure if you've tried the croissants at Tartine Bakery in San Francisco (which have that shattering crumb) but, even their team, is constantly tweaking the recipe to perfect it. You can find their recipe in the revised version of their cookbook, [Tartine: A Classic Revisited,](https://www.amazon.com/Tartine-Classic-Revisited-Favorites-Cookbooks/dp/1452178739/ref=dp_ob_title_bk) or via a search online. The folks over at Saveur did a great article with the bakers there on some tips about croissant-making as well. Good luck! Best, Lynn C.
Read More BakingAsked Apr 24, 2020 by Gary E.
When I was in cooking school the big emphasis was on using unsalted butter, so YOU can decide how much salt is going into the dish. I've gotten a few recipes from Milk Street that call specifically for salted butter. Why?
Answered by Lynn Clark
Hi Gary - We like salted butter since we prefer to keep just one type of butter in the house and salted butter lasts longer than unsalted. See this discussion for further comments from Chris on our reasoning. Thanks! Best, Lynn C.
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