The Swiss explorer discusses how she cooks and forages in the wild and why the mental journey is a bigger challenge than the physical. Also on this week’s show: Strange tales of food and the British Empire; ricotta-semolina cheesecake; Oaxacan Hot Chocolate; and The New Yorker’s Adam Gopink on the ethics of meat.

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